Q1 2024 Earnings Summary
- Las Vegas non-gaming revenue growth: Hotel revenues are up, and food and beverage revenue increased by 14%, indicating strong demand and potential for revenue growth in Las Vegas.
- Positive outlook for group and convention business: Group and convention bookings in Las Vegas are expected to be up in 2024 versus 2023, with strong pacing for the remaining quarters, suggesting continued strength in high-margin segments.
- Expansion of Digital segment: The company plans to launch casino brands in every iCasino state, indicating growth opportunities in the Digital business.
- Declining gaming volumes in Las Vegas: Caesars reported that slot handle was down 2% and table drop was down 7% year-over-year, excluding the Rio property, resulting in a net revenue decline of 4.5% in Las Vegas.
- Pressure on margins due to rising costs: The company operates in an inflationary environment with increased union labor costs, especially in Las Vegas and Atlantic City, requiring at least 5% revenue growth to maintain margins.
- Limited near-term growth opportunities: Caesars has no similar near-term projects to drive growth like the successful Harrah's Pompano expansion, with future developments like Scioto Downs in Columbus being longer-term opportunities.
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Leverage Reduction Strategies
Q: Other avenues to reduce leverage beyond free cash flow?
A: Management plans to monetize non-core assets, including non-operating casinos that produce little or no cash flow, to reduce leverage without altering their business model. They anticipate some of these actions may occur in 2024. -
Share Buybacks
Q: What do you consider growth opportunities these days?
A: The most attractive opportunity for free cash flow, according to management, is buying back their own stock in the current environment. -
Digital EBITDA Growth
Q: Can you clarify the digital business EBITDA projections?
A: The roll-off of significant partnerships will materially boost digital EBITDA. Management expects to reach $500 million in digital EBITDA by 2025 or early 2026, with continued growth beyond that point. -
Cost Control Measures
Q: What KPIs are you watching to assess cost control needs?
A: Management is always focused on controlling costs and is targeting over nine figures in efficiencies by year-end, recognizing that brick-and-mortar growth may be harder to achieve. -
Las Vegas Volume Trends
Q: Do you see any volume challenges in Las Vegas?
A: Management does not believe there's a consumer volume challenge in Las Vegas. January was soft year-over-year, but February and March were strong, resulting in volumes comparable to their biggest first quarter ever. -
Asset Sales for Deleveraging
Q: Any details on potential asset sales to reduce leverage?
A: While not providing specifics, management noted they have valuable assets not reflected in valuations that could be monetized. Centaur is not among the assets considered for sale. -
Revenue Growth for Margins
Q: Is 5% revenue growth still needed to maintain margins?
A: Management affirmed that while slightly lower growth might suffice, they use 5% as a target to maintain margins. -
Digital Expansion Plans
Q: How will launching your casino brand affect cannibalization?
A: They have enough skins to launch a second brand in each iCasino jurisdiction. A recent transaction with Wynn in Michigan allows them to add another skin in that state, enabling expansion without significant cannibalization. -
Consumer Trends in Regionals
Q: What are you seeing with the consumer in Regionals and Vegas?
A: All volume indicators were healthy. Excluding January, regional properties would have shown year-over-year growth, indicating robust consumer spending. -
Las Vegas Non-Gaming Revenue
Q: Is non-gaming revenue in Las Vegas lagging the market?
A: Management reported that food and beverage revenue was up about 14% (excluding Rio), and hotel revenues are up, suggesting they are not lagging the market. -
Margin Performance in Regionals
Q: How did you keep OpEx flat despite opening two properties?
A: There were no one-time savings; management continually seeks efficiencies to improve margins, even amid inflation and increased costs, showcasing their longstanding focus on operational efficiency. -
Digital Betting Hold Rates
Q: What's the theoretical hold with the new Parlay mix?
A: While current structural hold wasn't disclosed, they have set a target of 8.5% and are progressing well, with customers making more Parlays with additional legs, enhancing profitability. -
Future Development Projects
Q: Any similar projects like Pompano in the pipeline?
A: The only similar undeveloped property is at Scioto Downs in Columbus, which could be a longer-term opportunity. The Pompano development took 5 years and is now boosting revenue and EBITDA. -
Las Vegas Group Bookings Outlook
Q: How is the outlook for group bookings in Las Vegas?
A: Group and convention bookings are expected to be up in 2024 versus 2023, with the segment setting records in 2022 and 2023. First-quarter group occupancy was at 19% versus 21% last year due to ConAg. -
Domestic M&A Opportunities
Q: Are there domestic M&A opportunities for EBITDA growth?
A: While opportunities exist, significant transactions would require issuing equity, which management is unwilling to do at current share prices. -
Expense Outlook
Q: Any surprises on the expense side into 2025?
A: No major surprises are expected; management is focusing on small actions that cumulatively have a significant impact on both revenues and expenses. -
Clarification on Digital Numbers
Q: Can you help reconcile digital sports betting numbers?
A: Retail sports experienced a significant hold decrease due to events like the Super Bowl and March Madness, impacting revenue despite strong online sports betting growth. -
Las Vegas Table and Slot Declines
Q: What's driving declines in table drop and slot handle?
A: Excluding Rio, slot handle was down 2%, table drop down 7%, and net revenue down 4.5%. Declines were mainly due to table hold, and last year's first quarter was exceptionally strong. -
Consumer Health Indicators
Q: Are visitation and spend trends healthy?
A: Volume indicators remain healthy with strong hotel occupancy, revenue, and food and beverage figures, reflecting robust consumer spending. -
Cost Efficiencies Despite Inflation
Q: How are you managing costs with inflation and new openings?
A: Management continuously seeks efficiencies to improve margins and increase operational efficiency, despite inflation and higher costs from new property openings and union exposures.